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[mermaidshotel.livejournal.com]

if i'm terse and cranky-sounding in this entry, i apologise.
i'm just going to shorten names to A and S, because we know them already

1. A's comment - "I can't help but notice you belong to an LJ community called boy_touching. Maybe you should go back there." like astrokaiju, gryfindormia, and others, i took a look at the community and saw it was 18+, with no porn allowed. so that cancels out A's accusation that S was a pedophile. i interpreted a's tone as "go back to something lesser." that he was implying that being gay is something lesser. i hope that wording made sense.
2. both A and S were awesome posters. we know that. they will be missed. but just because you are a good poster does not give you the right to abuse another member. it doesn't give you the right to insult and lecture another member who has a differing opinion, or posted something you don't like.
it really, really disgusted me going through those entries and comments.

i am thinking of placing a temporary ban, but i'm still playing with it. if this happens, both A and S would be re-instated, to be completely fair.

i just want this to be a safe, considerate, and comfortable community where people can post without being scared they'll be attacked/flamed.

again, sorry for sounding so bitter and cranky. i used italics a lot. dumb me. i'm really tired. some sentences may have come out wrongly-worded. i'm going to bed.

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[silversolitaire.livejournal.com]

I think the bans were a bit harsh and overreacting. Yes, the tone was out of line for both parties involved and the wanking annoyed everyone, but I think posters should be given a better treatment than a kneejerk reaction to a thoughtless comment made in anger.

I can't so much speak for S since I only actively noticed two or three posts and then the massive wankery and flouncing, but in A's case I can say that there were many high quality posts that I enjoyed a lot. So yeah, whereas making good posts doesn't give you the right to be a constant raging idiot, it should give you a bit more lenience and consideration when being banned. It's like there's a huge long list of positive contributions as opposed to a few instances of negative ones, all related to a certain incident. That should be taken into account.

Of course it's your community and your decision and at least a temporary ban was a good idea, but I think eventually the decision should be reconsidered. Also, I think the accusation of the comment being homophobic is a bit over the top as well. It seems vasty based on personal interpretations IMO.

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[(Anonymous)]

"A's comment - "I can't help but notice you belong to an LJ community called boy_touching. Maybe you should go back there." like astrokaiju, gryfindormia, and others, i took a look at the community and saw it was 18+, with no porn allowed. so that cancels out A's accusation that S was a pedophile."

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[silversolitaire.livejournal.com]

Uhm yes? Why repeat this to me? I've read it and my opinion still stands O.o. I don't see any accusation of pedophilia in that line. If A had said "I see you're a member of carebear_friendz. Maybe you should go back there" it still would have been rude, but nobody would have even thought to accuse this of being homophobic or A accusing someone else of being a pedophile. So it's really just interpretation.

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[faedreamer.livejournal.com]

In a later comment, to me actually, he called it a "thinly-veiled" pedophile community. It is nothing of the sort and made it clear that he was implying anyone who was a member there was a pedophile.

Just to clarify,not trying to restir the wank pot.

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[silversolitaire.livejournal.com]

Ah okay. Well, that is clearly wanky, I agree. But again, I'd be willing to notch this up to "stupid comments made in the heat of wankery". I think mistakes were made on both sides. I'd hate to be banned from a community I was active in for a long time over a couple of stupid angry exchanges. But then again, I may just be too soft-hearted >.>;.

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amadoj0nes
2008-03-15 01:06 am UTC (link)

I called the guy out on the fact he's a member of an LJ community called "boy_touching".

The mod here apparently considers pedophilia a homosexual thing, and therefore my comment is "homophobic" in nature.

Yeah, I know.

Hell, I didn't even know the guy was gay, assuming he even is! Silly me, I point out a pedo, and I get banned. :) What bothers me is that she apparently equates homosexuality with pedophilia. Thats kind of, uhm.. wrong? Massively wrong?

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[silversolitaire.livejournal.com]

Please stop repeating stuff randomly without further comment. It's not really adding to the discussion. Thank you.

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[(Anonymous)]

So an accusation of pedophilia is "better" than an accusation of homophobia. Please?

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[silversolitaire.livejournal.com]

I never said INSULT#1 > INSULT#2. I said that the line that was quoted in this post was not enough evidence for me to warrant that kind of interpretation. Additional comments may have been made that confirmed that.

Regardless, as I explained in my post above, I think evaluation needs to be made based on overall performance in a community as opposed to just looking at random comments made in anger as we all are prone to do at times. That includes all parties involved. I'm neither friend or foe of either one, I'm merely adding my opinion.