Date: 2013-02-22 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikkewyntjie.livejournal.com
And today the CDC admitted that this year's flu shot was pretty much useless, especially for seniors. Glad I skipped it this year.

Date: 2013-02-22 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] write-light.livejournal.com
Glad? Is it harmful or expensive?

Date: 2013-02-22 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franklanguage.livejournal.com
I never get the flu shot—course, I had the flu last week, but clearly I might have gotten the flu anyway.

Date: 2013-02-22 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] planet-x-zero.livejournal.com
Where was this? I heard someone from the CDC very much in favor of vaccinations on NPR about six weeks ago.

ETA: OK, I gathered the strength to google. It was not effective for people over 65 and less effective than hoped for the general population.
Edited Date: 2013-02-22 06:09 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-02-22 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pikkewyntjie.livejournal.com
I'm sure the video I saw on NBC Nightly News is out there somewhere, but this says basically the same thing:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/50900628/#.USdqmqXh2jQ

Yet, the CDC still telling people to get the shot! What?

Date: 2013-02-22 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] planet-x-zero.livejournal.com
"Overall, the vaccine's effectiveness is a moderate 56 percent, which means those who got a shot have a 56 percent lower chance of winding up at the doctor with the flu. That is nearly as good as other flu seasons, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday."

Date: 2013-02-22 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laplor.livejournal.com
Anecdotally, this year my spouse got the flu shot and I did not. I was horribly ill for about two weeks and fully recovered within four weeks. He was quite sick for about two days and completely recovered within five.

Next year, I'm getting a flu shot too.

And about the ad, I always felt bad for the Dottie's dog.

Date: 2013-02-22 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lance-prevert.livejournal.com
Stop kissing everyone, Joe.

Date: 2013-02-22 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] planet-x-zero.livejournal.com
Not really fear mongering, although the style's entertainingly cheesy and of that advertizing era. It's just a matter of time before another flu pandemic hits.

Date: 2013-02-22 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] planet-x-zero.livejournal.com
"However, more people died of the vaccine then the actual flu." That is true, and unfortunate, and the episode is generally considered a fiasco, but it doesn't change the reality of a flu pandemic: it will be spread via the method described in the advertisement, and vaccination suggested by the advertisement is our only protection. If the ad truly wanted to use fear as a tactic, it could have referenced the 1918 flu pandemic where 50 to 100 million died.

The science of outbreaks is complicated and the flu is an especially slippery virus, mutating each season, and making vaccine accuracy difficult. What if the same ad were for a more stable virus such as smallpox or polio?

Finally, the positive result of the 1976 immunization may not be clear. Consider the following:
http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/50/11/1487


Date: 2013-02-22 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellzie-1963.livejournal.com
"The healthiest 55-year-old you've ever seen" looks like he's at least seventy.

Date: 2013-02-22 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plumtreeblossom.livejournal.com
I got Swine Flu in 2009. It's the sickest I've ever been in my life. I've gotten flu shots every year since, but I don't really know whether they're protecting me or not.

Date: 2013-02-23 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franklanguage.livejournal.com
Chances are, they're not (http://www.naturalnews.com/027984_swine_flu_vaccines.html).

Date: 2013-02-23 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bernthewitch.livejournal.com
Anecdotally, my husband and I both got swine flu in 2009, but the only difference I could tell with our strain is that we both had a stronger fever than other colds we've had. We've never had flu shots, and we don't intend on getting any.

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