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[violetamber.livejournal.com]

Anyone speak Dutch? What is this?

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[zadcat.livejournal.com]

I don't, but Babelfish does, and says:

Mother, is that now the second front, about which pappie has frequently spoken zoo?

- which I suspect ought to be "about which pappie has frequently spoken to you" but I may be wrong about that.

[violetamber.livejournal.com]

thanks a ton my dolly!

[kdiddy.livejournal.com]

christ, that's creepy

[foolonthehill.livejournal.com]

Sweet Jesus on a crack that is ODDD where did you find that?

[violetamber.livejournal.com]

a book about morals during wwII by dr. magnus hirschfeld (it had a really long german title i forget)

[williamaris.livejournal.com]

Definitely a German propaganda poster produced with the aim of alienating the Dutch from the allies. They were usually posted after Allied bombing raids or other attacks (for example against the V1 and V2 sites that the Germans typically located in heavily populated areas). Those attacks often caused accidental Dutch casualties.

[estro.livejournal.com]

it's a dutch propaganda poster, because as you see there's dutch text on it :)
it says' is that the frontline which daddy always talked about?

Propaganda poster

[williamaris.livejournal.com]

I just replied to your refutal of my identification of the prop poster as being Dutch. Funny thing is, I didn't realize you were Dutch. I would have thought you would have been more aware of your own country's history. Any public library in the Netherlands provides ample reference material on this subject, especially on the profusion of German propaganda produced to influence/brainwash the Dutch population. So, you can always catch up by doing a bit of reading.

Re: Propaganda poster

[estro.livejournal.com]

i know that they displayed propaganda posters here. don't talk to me about history, i know my shit. but this particular one is not propaganda FOR germans, it's AGAINST the war, just look at the picture. it was probably used by pacifists who were against the war.

Re: Propaganda poster

[estro.livejournal.com]

okay i just looked at that link you gave me. clearly you were right.

[williamaris.livejournal.com]

Sorry to have to corect you, but having lived (as a British expat) in the Netherlands for 25 years, I am not only fluent in Dutch but also cognisant of the historical period of the occupation. You don't realize that the Dutch government of that period was in exile in the United Kingdom, so there were no Dutch authorities in a position to authorize, fund or post such posters. The German/Nazi government exercised total power in this respect. For example, any Dutch citizen caught in possession of a radio was liable to be executed, and that was no idle threat (unless of course they were trusted Nazi collaborators). So of course the poster is in Dutch, which is logical as it is aimed at at the Dutch population - but it was commisssioned by the Germans/Nazi's to push the Nazi point of view. As I have explained, they and they alone has the sole right to post or sanction public (dis)information. Add to this the fact that the Dutch (most of them at any rate) wanted to be liberated, and accepted - albeit grudgingly - occasional collateral damage caused by the Allies, the nature of the poster becomes clear. An attempt by the Germans/Nazi's to influence the Dutch towards resenting the Aliies war-effort to liberate Europe, and turn them against the Allies. This was of course a waste of time, because the Germans/Nazi's executed in excess of a hundred-thousand Dutch civilians. No German propaganda can counter the resentment that produces.

[williamaris.livejournal.com]

The poster says: Mummie, is that the second front about which father has so often spoken?

Definitive identification of poster as nazi material

[williamaris.livejournal.com]

Het Geheugen van Nederland (The memory of the Netherlands) has a webpage detailing this poster and its origins.

Here follows a translation of the text contained in the URL given below -

Second Front

In the summer of 1942 rumours abounded that at any moment a large English (should be British - the Scots and Welsh were there too - me) and American military force would land on the coast of western European. This so-called Second Front would mean the end of the Third Reich, so people thought.

Illegal newspapers such as Vrij Nederland (Free Netherlands) and Het Parool (The Message) were utterly convinced that liberation was at hand. They published comprehensive instructions detailing how people could support the allied troops during an invasion.

There was however no rapid liberation, but people still kept looking forward and hoping for a Second Front. National-socialist (NAZI) propaganda reacted to this by trying to convince people that they would suffert immeasurably during any invasion.

http://www.geheugenvannederland.nl/tentoonstellingen/Niod_nl/tentoon13.html

Re: Definitive identification of poster as nazi material

[estro.livejournal.com]

oh my... okay now i'm stunned haha
those germans got it all figured out!! i thought i've seen it all