1912 - Giving the ballot to women is an experiment

[wheelerwoolsey.livejournal.com]

From the Portland Oregonian, November 4, 1912:

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[crimson-flygon.livejournal.com]

"If it proves destructive rather than helpful to government"

THE WOMEN CAN VOTE, THE COUNTRY IS GOING TO COLLAAAAPSE

[eva]

Oh dear.

Considering that I'm currently in a Twitter argument with people from the German Pirate Party about whether they are sexist (because after all, calling a women's quota like the Green Party has it, "Tittenbonus", which means exactly what you think it means, does not reek of sexism at all), it's truly amazing how far we have not come.

[aprilstarchild.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Oregon was fairly late in the game, in the West anyway, to get women the right to vote.

I truly believe that in a few decades, the hand-wringing about same-sex marriage will look just as stupid.

[bradygirl_12]

I truly believe that in a few decades, the hand-wringing about same-sex marriage will look just as stupid.

This! I've always said that in a matter of decades people will look back on this issue and wonder what all the fuss was about.

[pseydtonne.livejournal.com]

It just sucks to be in the middle of it.

I had always wondered how people could've been pro-segregation and proud of it in the 1960s. now I hear those same kind of people talk their fool heads off all the time on a slightly different topic. They sound scared of their own desires and they're projecting like cinemas.

[bradygirl_12]

It staggers me, too, about the segregation issue, and the slavery issue in the 1850s/1860s. People just went about their business as slavery was conducted and it was just the backdrop to their lives. Most didn't think much about it but finally people had to take a stand.

The gay marriage issue is all about power and who has it. The het majority has it and doesn't want to share it, otherwise why would they be so afraid of gays getting married? Last I heard, licenses weren't handed out on a limited basis so hets won't be denied marriage if gays get licenses.

Ironic that gays wanting to get married and serve in the military are opposed so strongly by the same kind of people who trumpet family values and serving one's country above all (peace is hippie stuff).

[bradygirl_12]

I can't edit my comment! Urgh! Anyway, the peace is hippie stuff is according to them, not me! ;)

[bluebear2.livejournal.com]

It's only been seven years in Canada and it already is no longer an issue. People move on to other things to be bothered with pretty quickly.

[sandoz-iscariot.livejournal.com]

It's pretty scary to think women in the US have had the vote for less than a hundred years.

[pseydtonne.livejournal.com]

Point of order: Wyoming has had women's suffrage since 1869. The U.S. did not grant it all over until 1920, but Wyoming at one time was progressive.

[palesknbeauty.livejournal.com]

Yes, women in the more rural areas voted long before the US granted it to all elidgible women.

[eva]

That's nothing, really. Switzerland nationally: 1971. The last of the Swiss cantons: 1990. That one took a decision of the Supreme Court, because women's vote was being decided on in a plebiscite by those those allowed to vote in that canton, namely men, who naturally wanted to keep their privileges.

[noluck-boston.livejournal.com]

I dont mean this be offensive. We loved this clip of Family guy at work.

[nebris.livejournal.com]

"Vote for Taft, you dirty girl". lol

~M~

[cookiefleck.livejournal.com]

"...no matter how unwisely." Yeah, right. What an obnoxious negative ad from 1912. Obviously a predecessor of our current negative ads that use a smarmy tone of voice and blatant innuendo to mislead. Right now, in California, I'm being annoyed by a negative ad for a tax on cigarettes to fund cancer research. An earnest-looking everyman says something along the lines of "I thought it sounded good but then I realized that none of the money goes for JOBS in California. Shouldn't your HIGHER TAXES go for California JOBS? Vote NO against HIGHER TAXES." The ad above is no better.

[flameelf.livejournal.com]

None of this is new. The Greeks, who brought us democracy and enlightenment, also did their best to keep women furniture. Girl babies were regularly exposed to die (and often scooped up by brothel keepers, who knew that men--particularly Athenian ones--preferred their sex with prostitutes and kept their wives closed up in windowless areas of the house at all times). Female = worthless.

By the way, I AM female.

G :)

[urbantravels.livejournal.com]

Next time someone harangues me about the latest insane California proposition, I finally have a comeback: "We have sufficient of experiment already on our hands in the ballot way."