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Same.

On a non-addictive level, have you tried Trazodone? It's my true love, comes with a bit of a hangover but my god it knocks me out and I can stop and start depending on when my insomnia kicks in.

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I have to combine a rather high dose of Trazodone with either Ambien or Lunesta to get any rest at all. I hate it so much, but it's much safer and probably more effective than Placidyl (eugh, just the name squicks me out!).

Yeah, the hangover is tough. It takes me about 2 hours to wake up all the way. But since I can sleep to get that hangover, I'm willing to deal with it, and schedule accordingly.

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Oh man, you SERIOUSLY have my sympathies. 200mg usually puts me out, but it's a rare occasion when it doesn't. Having to combine it like that must be awful, there's nothing worse than being unable to sleep. D:

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250mg of Traz and 15mg (I think...) of Lunesta. when I was doing Abmien instead it was 12.5mg.

I hate that I have to be drugged into submission to sleep even fairly decently. I think I last had actual restful sleep back when I was 10 years old (I'm 25 now).

I have other health issues too which contribute to the crap sleeping. But it's kinda like, "really?!"

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As long as we're sharing our sleep cocktails, here's mine, all prescribed off-label specifically for sleep, and which I'm told should be enough to drop a football team, not just 114 lbs. me! The good thing is that the "side effects" of all these drugs should mean I shouldn't suffer from psychosis, depression, seizures, or muscle spasms. ;)

Bedtime: 200 mg seroquel, 30 mg mirtazapine, 900 mg gabapentin, and four drops doxepin suspension.
Then when I wake up sometime between 5 and 6 a.m., another 200 mg seroquel, 15 mg mirtazapine, and a stomach acid supplement so I can actually digest the pills. That keeps me asleep until about 10 a.m.
If either the bedtime or early-morning dosages don't work, I can take 20 mg of baclofen.

I'm completely intolerant of benzos and their relatives like ambien - they cause panic attacks for me. And the list of things we've tried and have failed you wouldn't believe.

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DID YOU TRY TAKING A WARM BATH RIGHT BEFORE BED BECAUSE MY NEPHEW COULDN'T SLEEP AND THAT WORKED WONDERS

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HAVE YOU TRIED NOT NAPPING DURING THE DAY AND CUTTING OUT CAFFEINE?

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BENADRYL WORKS REALLY WELL I HEAR

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ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE JUST NOT EXERCISING ENOUGH

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YOU JUST NEED TO STAY UP UNTIL YOU'RE ACTUALLY TIRED.

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Holy crap! I think you are definitely the winnar in the "who has to be the most doped up to sleep" contest^.^

Xanax gives me panic attacks...which we didn't know until I was given Xanax to relax me for an hour and a half long MRI. I spent the whole time flipping out and trying to stay still. Worst hour and a half of my life so far!

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There ain't no party like a paradoxical reaction party, because a paradoxical reaction party SCARES YOU OUT OF YOUR GOURD.

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Holy shit dude, that's one hell of a cocktail.

Don't you love all the people who come to you with their sleep remedies like warm milk and reading before bed? Oh man, makes me want to strangle people. I know they're just trying to be helpful but it's like "DON'T YOU THINK I ALREADY TRIED THAT?!"

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Sometimes I tell them, "I ended up hospitalized with delusions, irregular heartbeat and a sustained pulse around 180 while lying perfectly still because I got only a few hours of sleep for several months at a stretch, before they figured out (mostly from my research) what would actually get me to sleep. Warm milk my ass."

That usually does the trick. :)

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The good thing is that I now have a wonderful doctor who believes firmly in using cocktails of (generally) smaller amounts of more drugs. One or two things at a time, he thinks, is asking for trouble - trouble in the form of the therapy failing sooner, and trouble in the form of poorly-tolerated side effects being more likely as the dosages get higher. He's not actually a sleep specialist, either - he's my specialist for my primary illness, which is ME/CFS. Because sleep complaints are a significant part of that illness, he has a lot of experience with them, and realizes that nobody can heal if they're not well-rested. So he's aggressive about making sure that I have good sleep as the basis of the best possible treatment.

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I really like the idea of more medications in smaller doses rather than just upping the doses of a few. The only issue I would run into is interactions. I would love to see a sleep specialist, but I do what I can.

*I have Fibro (among other things...), and there's huge sleep suckage with that too. I'm being investigated for ME/CFS right now as well.

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zhukora1.livejournal.com

Cripes, that woman's pajamas alone look like reason enough for insomnia. Put on something less starched, lady, and maybe then you won't need the hard drugs!

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meezergal.livejournal.com

...actually, I had pajamas something like those when I was a kid. They were a gift from relatives, I hasten to add, and the bow didn't survive the first laundering. Also, they weren't nearly as starchy.

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