Isn't that just as sexist as saying "woman, get away from my Speestick!"...? It's interesting that with such a segregated stance (boys on that side, girls on this side,) there's nothing to clearly indicate that that is a woman. A man could wear anything she has on, even a wig, at the very least in a vaudeville spirit. That outfit does nothing to highlight physical features that would actually be feminine. Even her neck is covered, to hide whether or not there's an Adam's apple. She kind of reminds me of El Debarge's lead singer, in fact, sans mustache.
Being that I'm an FtM, myself, no. I meant 'that' as in 'that picture'. And while I'm wholly in favor of androgyny, I don't understand why it would be used in an ad intended to illustrate some fundamental difference in gender-specific deodorant. If they're going to go with a polar approach, there had to be a more feminine outfit on hand, even if this was in style in the 80s.
I think the 'joke' is that he's an umpire and she says 'Bad call.' Oh well, her sparkly purple jumpsuit gives me agreeable flashbacks to Jem and the Holograms!
This ad is not putting forth an androgynous idea. This was the style back then. Simple. Back then this was a very feminine outfit from this time period. Shoulder pads made a huge comeback during this time fashion period, and I hated them, still do. Women wore tailored suits during the 1940's complete with shoulder pads. So what was the "message" back then?
Nope, it's just cool 80s style sorry to say. I remember, alas. I don't think they thought about the gendered element beyond "woman in sexy nightclub attire that is currently fashionable."
The ad makers probably figured the purple sequins would clarify that she's a woman. And the choice of a more "power suit" kind of casual getup is most likely there to support the idea that Secret is strong enough to do anything men's deodorant can do, but is designed for women (I don't know how much truth there is to the Ph balance thing).
This. Sigh, this jumpsuit reminds me of the burgundy boucle I *slaved* over with its welt pocket and quilted shoulder pad detail, that I ruined after only wearing once because there was bleach residue round the toilet, and of course you have to drop the whole thing...
Man, that jumpsuit was exceptionally cool at the time. EXCEPTIONALLY.
I had a white flannel jumpsuit with a black paisley pattern on it and shoulder pads. I wore it with a thick black belt and Egyptian mummy earrings. And spiked hair. STYLIN'!
Remember when it was PARENTS that didn't understand???
You know parents are the same No matter time nor place They don't understand that us kids Are going to make some mistakes So to you, all the kids all across the land There's no need to argue Parents just don't understand
I remember one year My mom took me school shopping It was me, my brother, my mom, oh, my pop, and my little sister All hopped in the car We headed downtown to the Gallery Mall My mom started bugging with the clothes she chose I didn't say nothing at first I just turned up my nose She said, "What's wrong? This shirt cost $20" I said, "Mom, this shirt is plaid with a butterfly collar!"
The next half hour was the same old thing My mother buying me clothes from 1963 And then she lost her mind and did the ultimate I asked her for Adidas and she bought me Zips!
I said, "Mom, what are you doing, you're ruining my rep" She said, "You're only sixteen, you don't have a rep yet" I said, "Mom, let's put these clothes back, please" She said "no, you go to school to learn not for a fashion show" I said, "This isn't Sha na na, come on Mom, I'm not Bowzer Mom, please put back the bell-bottom Brady Bunch trousers But if you don't want to I can live with that but You gotta put back the double-knit reversible slacks"
She wasn't moved - everything stayed the same Inevitably the first day of school came I thought I could get over, I tried to play sick But my mom said, "No, no way, uh-uh, forget it" There was nothing I could do, I tried to relax I got dressed up in those ancient artifacts And when I walked into school, it was just as I thought The kids were cracking up laughing at the clothes Mom bought And those who weren't laughing still had a ball Because they were pointing and whispering As I walked down the hall
I got home and told my Mom how my day went She said, "If they were laughing you don't need the, "Cause they're not good friends" For the next six hours I tried to explain to my Mom That I was gonna have to go through this about 200 more times
So to you all the kids all across the land There's no need to argue Parents just don't understand
I can't believe that silhouette for pants came back in-I swear I saw pants like that last year, only worse...Her purple sparklies have a lot less fabric bunched up around the hips/thighs than the 2009 ones did.
You just have to consider that the fashionable shape was inverted triangle, whereas today's is straight up and down. So big shoulders and lots of material on top was preferred, big fluffy hair, lots of accessories.... with skinny legs and all material as tight as possible the further down you got. For a while the triangle shape was big in fashion -- super tight tops that didn't even cover the midriff, super tight and low cut jeans that came down to wide legs with heavy thick shoes or boots.
I always, always got a kick out of the suggestion that women must not sweat as hard as men do; if the product was strong enough to handle a man's sweat, it's just gotta be plenty strong enough for a woman!
That's what I always interpreted it as, anyway. Definitely a strange marketing campaign.
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Date: 2010-05-02 05:44 pm (UTC)Also, her pants scare me.
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Date: 2010-05-02 06:08 pm (UTC)Oh, feminists.
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Date: 2010-05-02 08:41 pm (UTC)She's wearing a -very- popular jumpsuit style club outfit from the mid 80's.
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Date: 2010-05-02 10:52 pm (UTC)Oh well, her sparkly purple jumpsuit gives me agreeable flashbacks to Jem and the Holograms!
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Date: 2010-05-02 06:55 pm (UTC)What?
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Date: 2010-05-02 07:54 pm (UTC)Also wut.
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Date: 2010-05-04 01:37 am (UTC)Man, that jumpsuit was exceptionally cool at the time. EXCEPTIONALLY.
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Date: 2010-05-04 02:52 am (UTC)You know parents are the same
No matter time nor place
They don't understand that us kids
Are going to make some mistakes
So to you, all the kids all across the land
There's no need to argue
Parents just don't understand
I remember one year
My mom took me school shopping
It was me, my brother, my mom, oh, my pop, and my little sister
All hopped in the car
We headed downtown to the Gallery Mall
My mom started bugging with the clothes she chose
I didn't say nothing at first
I just turned up my nose
She said, "What's wrong? This shirt cost $20"
I said, "Mom, this shirt is plaid with a butterfly collar!"
The next half hour was the same old thing
My mother buying me clothes from 1963
And then she lost her mind and did the ultimate
I asked her for Adidas and she bought me Zips!
I said, "Mom, what are you doing, you're ruining my rep"
She said, "You're only sixteen, you don't have a rep yet"
I said, "Mom, let's put these clothes back, please"
She said "no, you go to school to learn not for a fashion show"
I said, "This isn't Sha na na, come on Mom, I'm not Bowzer
Mom, please put back the bell-bottom Brady Bunch trousers
But if you don't want to I can live with that but
You gotta put back the double-knit reversible slacks"
She wasn't moved - everything stayed the same
Inevitably the first day of school came
I thought I could get over, I tried to play sick
But my mom said, "No, no way, uh-uh, forget it"
There was nothing I could do, I tried to relax
I got dressed up in those ancient artifacts
And when I walked into school, it was just as I thought
The kids were cracking up laughing at the clothes Mom bought
And those who weren't laughing still had a ball
Because they were pointing and whispering
As I walked down the hall
I got home and told my Mom how my day went
She said, "If they were laughing you don't need the,
"Cause they're not good friends"
For the next six hours I tried to explain to my Mom
That I was gonna have to go through this about 200 more times
So to you all the kids all across the land
There's no need to argue
Parents just don't understand
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Date: 2010-05-03 03:50 am (UTC)I did. I was very fashionable back then. My favorite outfit involved shoulder pads and dolman sleeves. It was very chic. :-)
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Date: 2010-05-02 09:23 pm (UTC)I can see my older sister having worn that outfit in the 80s. It's so her.
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Date: 2010-05-03 05:32 am (UTC)I always, always got a kick out of the suggestion that women must not sweat as hard as men do; if the product was strong enough to handle a man's sweat, it's just gotta be plenty strong enough for a woman!
That's what I always interpreted it as, anyway. Definitely a strange marketing campaign.